Verrat. Schwäche


Enthüllung - Bringe Rex` Fluch in deiner Bedrohungszone ins Spiel.

Erzwungen - Sobald dir eine Fertigkeitsprobe gelingen würde: Schicke den enthüllten Chaosmarker zurück in den Beutel und enthülle einen neuen Chaosmarker. Falls die Probe durch diesen Effekt misslingt, mische Rex` Fluch in dein Deck (Nur ein Mal pro Probe).

Das Vermächtnis von Dunwich #9.
Rex` Fluch

Not a review but to clarify rules on this tricky card: when you return the token, its effects are not canceled, but its modifier is. So you apply the modifier of the second token, but the effects of both. (edit: this include both tokens that have effects that apply immediately when you pull them, as well as tokens having delayed effects, such as "if you fail"). To fully understand this interaction you should read the skill test timing chart in the rules reference!

jd9000 · 40
This is a tricky one... According to skill test timing, ST.3 is Reveal a chaos token, ST.4 is apply chaos token symbol effect, and ST.6 is Determine success/failure. According to this, when Rex's curses triggers as you are about to succeed a test, you have already been through ST.4 once and must now return to ST.3 and go through all the following steps again. In other words, symbols with a direct effect will have two chances to be drawn and triggered For example, in the scenario The Gathering, if you reveal a Broken Tablet and a Ghoul is at your location, you would take 1 damage in ST.4, then (if you succeed) Rex's curse would pull you back at ST.3 and you could draw a Broken Tablet again for a second damage! - - - Though a question still stands for me: what happens if you draw several chaos tokens (e.g. revealing a Cultist Token on hard in The Gathering prompts you to reveal another chaos token). In this case, what chaos token should you return to the bag? I'd say that you should return the last revealed chaos token, and hence you would still sit with that cultist token on the board and the possibility of taking 2 horrors on failure, but that's my guess. Also, situation may get complicated when you reveal multiple chaos token at the same time and not one after another. — Alleria · 68
A recent FAQ entry regarding multiple chaos tokens being revealed due to Olive McBride, states that even if a card mention "chaos token" in the singular form its effect extends to all the chaos tokens revealed. Following the same logic I think Rex's curse would make you return all chaos tokens revealed if you would succeed, and not just the last one. — Killbray · 53
@Alleria: not only symbols with a direct effect: other token effects create a delayed effect that applies even if they're returned to the bag — jd9000 · 40

Matthew Newman's clarification on the effects of the tokens:

This is a bit of a tricky situation so I will outline it step by step, as best I can. =)

Rex’s Curse triggers during Step 6, when you determine success/failure of the skill test. By that time, some chaos token effects will have already triggered. Chaos token effects that say “if you succeed" or "if you fail” will not have triggered yet, as Rex’s Curse interrupts the timing of those effects, but since Rex’s Curse does not cancel or ignore the token (like Wendy’s Amulet or Grotesque Statue does), the token will have created a delayed effect that will trigger during Step 7, regardless of whether the token is returned to the bag or not. Chaos token effects that simply have an effect (like “Place 1 doom on the nearest Cultist enemy,” for example) trigger during Step 4, before Rex’s Curse triggers.

After you return the chaos token and draw a new chaos token from Rex’s Curse, the sequence returns to Step 3, and you should follow the sequence in order as normal.

So, in your example:

  • You draw the cultist token during step 3. During step 4, you place 1 doom on the nearest cultist, as part of the token’s effect.
  • When you would pass the test (during step 6), you return the revealed chaos token to the bag and reveal a new chaos token. This returns you to step 3 of the sequence.
  • You draw another cultist token! Poor Rex. During step 4, you place another doom on the nearest cultist.
  • Step 6 rolls around again and you pass the test, so Rex’s Curse remains in play.

Had you revealed a chaos token that says “If you succeed / if you fail” during your first reveal, it might go like this:

  • You draw the hypothetical token during step 3. It says “if you fail, take 1 horror.” This creates a delayed effect that will deal you 1 horror during step 7 if you fail the test.
  • When you would pass the test (during step 6), you return the revealed chaos token to the bag and reveal a new chaos token. This returns you to step 3 of the sequence.
  • You draw another hypothetical token. This creates another delayed effect that will deal you 1 horror during step 7 if you fail.
  • If you failed this hypothetical test, during step 7, you would take 2 horror (one from each of the tokens).

I hope this clears things up. Cheers!

Casalderrey · 10