Carson Sinclair
Der Butler

Ermittler

Assistent.

Wächter
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Health: 6. Sanity: 6.

Du darfst während deines Zuges eine zusätzliche Aktion nehmen, die du nur für die unten angegebene -Fähigkeit verwenden kannst.

: Wähle einen anderen Ermittler an deinem Ort. Er darf sofort eine Aktion nehmen, als ob es sein Zug wäre. (Nur 1 Mal pro Runde für jeden Ermittler.)

-Effekt: +0. Ziehe 1 Karte. Du darfst diesen Effekt abhandeln, immer wenn ein anderer Ermittler an deinem Ort seinen -Effekt abhandelt.

Magali Villeneuve
Die scharlachroten Schlüssel (Ermittler-Erweiterung) #1.

Carson Sinclair - Back

Ermittler

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Carson Sinclair hat drei Generationen der Familie Webb in Arkham gedient. Carson war stets loyal, doch jüngst beobachtete er mit Missfallen, wie sein derzeitiger Arbeitgeber, Hercule Webb, damit begann, bizarre Artefakte und lästerliche Bücher ins Haus zu bringen. Ein Interesse, das sein Geschäftsleiter Dupuis anzufachen schien. Als Mr. Webb von einem Dimensionsriss verschluckt wurde, glaubte niemand Carsons Bericht über den erschütternden Vorfall. Carson machte es sich zur Aufgabe, Dupuis’ Schuld zu beweisen und die Kinder als rechtmäßige Erben des Webb-Vermögens wieder einzusetzen.
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FAQs

(from the official FAQ or responses to the official rules question form)
  • Q: What's the interactions between Carson Sinclair's ability and Plan of Action? Let's say that Carson gives an action to Silas Marsh, and commits Plan of Action on a test Silas is performing, will it gain icons? If so, which ones? Does "your turn" on "as if it was your turn" refers to "the turn you are playing this round"? In that case, it would depend on the number of action that Silas has performed. A: When Carson uses his ability to grant another player an action, he does so during his own turn. The type of icons that Plan of Action would gain in your proposed example depends on how many actions Carson has taken during his turn. (“This turn” = “Carson’s turn.” Though Silas is “taking an action as if it were his turn”, it does not mean he is taking a turn.)

  • Q: If Carson Sinclair uses his ability to let another investigator take an action as if it were their turn: 1) What happens if they use that action to activate Rite of Seeking, then draw a symbol token? Both in the case where they haven't taken their turn yet this round, and they have taken their turn this round. 2) What happens if they have access to effects with "limit once per turn" (for example, "Skids" O'Toole's ability, or the effect on .41 Derringer?) Again, both in the case where they've taken their turn this round, and where they haven't taken their turn yet. More specifically, can they trigger the "once per turn" oversuccess effect on .41 Derringer (2) both on their actual turn and with the donated action from Carson? 3) What happens if they have access to effects that trigger at the end of their turn? For example, Frozen in Fear's Forced effect - does it only trigger once at the end of their "actual" turn, or does it trigger both at the end of their turn, and at the end of the action from Carson? 4) What happens if they have access to effects that say "During your turn..." For example, does Leo De Luca give an action during their normal turn, and then another action after Carson donates an action? A: Let me state up front that there is a difference between the player taking their standard turn, and a player “taking an action as if it were their turn” – in the latter case, a turn is not being taken. “Your turn” only occurs once during the investigation phase. Going into specific answers for your questions:

    • If Carson Sinclair gives another player an action and they activate Rite of Seeking, if that player then draws a symbol token, they will “lose all remaining actions” for the round. If that player already took their turn, they have no actions to lose. But if they hadn’t taken their turn, they lose all 3 of their standard actions for that round.
    • If the only limit on the ability is “once per turn”, the player can activate the ability both during their own turn and during another investigator’s turn where they received an action.
    • “Skids” O’Toole’s Free Triggered Ability specifies it must be used “During your turn”, so that cannot be used when it’s not his turn (i.e. when Carson gives him an action).
    • .41 Derringer (2)’s “once per turn” could be resolved during any turn if its controller is able to activate it.
    • Frozen in Fear’s Forced effect triggers at the end of the player’s turn. Carson’s “donated” action does not count as the player taking a turn.
    • Leo De Luca only grants an additional action “during your turn.” He would not give another action if an action was “donated” during someone else’s turn.
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Reviews

Jacqueline Fine is probably one of Carson Sinclair's primary targets to try and butler (butling?) or at the very least, he will want to stick to her location as much as possible.

Why? Because her Elder Sign ability will activate far more often than any other investigator due to its unique ability to resolve even when cancelled or ignored which Jacquline will want to do 90% of the time. And regardless of whether she plays her Elder Sign or chooses to draw a card, Carson will still draw a card.

She's a fine lady who treats her servants very well.

Tao · 15
He's the butler. He buttles. — supertoasty · 38
Every day he's buttling. — mythosmeeple · 454
Excellent observation, and flavorful too! — Miskatonic_Community_College · 20
But who buttles the butler? — AlderSign · 284

Please find my parody song and short guide on how Carsons ability can ironically lead to quarterbacking, or indeed how to slowly coerce your friends into buttlering for you, at this link: .

arkhamdb.com

Not my best. It has been a few years and im clearly a bit rusty. I have moved it to this link as some people were frustrated when scrolling past it due to length:

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Please don’t add to the comments. They are also already on the long side and making the matter worse. Happy to take thoughts by DM on discord. Meanwhile – back to adb retirement for me I think.

StartWithTheName · 69385
Huge thanks to @Jaxtrasi for bringing me out of parody song retirement with his review of Call of the unknown (https://arkhamdb.com/card/04009#review-5247). I forgot how much fun these were to write. — StartWithTheName · 69385
Lame. — MrGoldbee · 1451
Annnnd less than 24hrs before a lazy insult. Now I remember why I gave up on Arkhamdb. Too many vocal toxic players to wade through to get to talk to the much larger group of nice folk. @McGoldbee. If people like you can put someone as engaged in the community as I am off the game, imagine what it does to newcomers. Its not exactly the best image for the hobby. — StartWithTheName · 69385
Your song parody is annoying to scroll past, repeating the last line a 16 full times. Rage Against the Machine rules and this parody is lame. If you want more time before an insult I can repeat my critique in a year. — MrGoldbee · 1451
Your first line doesn’t have the same syllables. The original has 14, your version has 15. The poetic foot is also wrong. The original phrase, “some of those who work forces” goes stressed unstressed stressed un stressed, double stressed (For Sez). Yours, “some fighting occult forces” is stressed stressed stressed, unstressed (o CULT) double stressed. — MrGoldbee · 1451
This is also taking a parody of one of the most popular anti-police protest songs of all time, and using it to say “Carson can give people actions and is a Butler.” Many song parodies are good, and there are even ones on this site that are good (once that hyperlink specific cards as punch lines, for example.) but now that I have shown you the amount of effort I’m going to put in, I have come to the conclusion: if you want community, it’s streaming on Peacock. This is a card review website. — MrGoldbee · 1451
As someone @MrGoldbee got into the game, I gotta say; maybe it's a case of 'You could have picked a way better song'? Scrolling past it was a tad annoying and the next song was half the length. Also, you @'d him wrong. — MrNerdyGeeky · 1
@MrGoldbee why so serious?? "Annoying to scroll past", like... seriously? If you don't like it, is it so hard to ignore it for a week and never see it ever again? We like your reviews of cards, but sometimes a fun review with a song that makes some people smile is also what makes this community such a unique place. This place belongs to the diversity of people who play this game, it was made inclusive, and I personally love it this way. — Valentin1331 · 69029
I don't care for these song 'reviews' at all. At least the reviews that ask questions are short and quick to scroll past, and are sometimes useful. These are just an exercise in vanity. — jemwong · 95
Listen guys, im not looking to start a fight here. Or really call someone out or anything. Rudeness (accidental or otherwise) always warrants a response. Mainly to give people an idea of how they are coming across and the option to adapt/rephrase things, particularly if they are unaware. I was at least partly trying to explain that things like these have wider consequences than might be apparent. This sort of thing genuinely put me off the game about a year and a half ago, and I’m a middle aged man with pretty comfortable life I guess. There are vulnerable people in our community for whom it can be much worse. Again explaining not shaming here, but we do need to be careful about these things. I do now see what you mean about it being a long song. Apologies for the scrolling, it’s the same lines as the lyrics listed ofc. It’s clearly a longer song on paper than it is in my head. Theres a lot of repetition with the difference in lines reflected in inflection I guess. This is hard to portray in text. I did at least do a little staging on the earlier bits. Anyway. These arnt meant to be perfect revisions of the original. Im just not that musically talented. I was just looking to share some analogies and puns that amused me with those who might enjoy them. Lighten their day a bit. And in this context, its often worth occasionally sacrificing syllable/inflection matching in places imo. Its meant to be silly, or I suppose “lame” as you put it, rather than “good”. No one thinks their song is publishable. I have no plans to release an album. These songs are easter eggs for the site really. That all said, if you read them carefully, (I think) all of my songs have a point and provide a review of sorts or tips built in. Maybe not the very first ones? Anyway, in this case its not exactly subtle or intended to be, but the whole point is to show how his ability can slowly creep into authorised quarterbacking. The irony that this reverses the bultering theme is interesting to me. As are the analogies with the themes of indoctrination and obedience in the original song being reversed… and how in doing so you change from phrases that I imaging a moderate would ask me to remove, to ones that are at least still sinister if coercive rather than overtly defiant (a very upper class alternative). It looks like we do all at least agree it’s beast of a song (the original, not mine). As a man feeling his age having learned yesterday that some of the younger players didn’t know what song it was, it is at least nice to hear that is still precious to others. I don’t think ive chosen to parody a song I didn’t think was a legend. — StartWithTheName · 69385
A compromise would be to not "like" reviews like these so that they stay at the bottom of the page where you don't really have to scroll past them. Might be counterintuitive to people who actually like the review, though ;) — AlderSign · 284
It's funny how defensive we're getting about someone posting their random off topic parody review when no one at all stands up for people who ask questions about the card as a review and get directed to go elsewhere. — Spamamdorf · 5
I didn’t realise that sort of thing happened @spamamdorf, at least commonly. Im more active (or used to be) on the decklist/guide side. Unprovoked attacks against someone trying to do something nice are probably directed at a someone who knows the wider community (discords and whatnot) arnt like that. People posting questions are more likely casual/new players. If they are being aggressively chased off (rather than politely redirected if that’s the sites rules), then I agree thats much worse. Few people would consider getting deeper into a hobby if they expect to have interactions like that later on. This post will have had more attention because I sent it to a few friends/groups before the drama started, but understandably people generally avoiding arguments they are not directly involved in (I certainly do). So I can see why rules questions might not get the same defence, certainly not quickly enough. — StartWithTheName · 69385
Your two-page off-topic parady review of questionable taste was criticized, so you feel justified in raising a huge fuss about toxicity and inclusiveness and tone-policing, write multi-paragraph text-block defenses of your parody song, and portray the criticism as a personal attack turning you off the game. MrGoldbee was rude, but I don't like your reaction any much more. — suika · 9413
You make some fair points Suika, I guess im not known for being concise. My first reply was true but indeed tempered by frustration. An old friend reached out to me so I pop back on to give it a bash again and problems start so quickly. My second reply was me trying to explain this, how similar things had affected me in the past, and offer opportunities to make amends and find common ground (please read it in a neutral tone, and read to the end if you have doubts). If you read between the lines on it, I was also trying to make sure others don’t pile on. As soon as I posted it (ie before the drama) I had sent this to a few public places where old friends from my deck listing days still hang out. Some of them know what I went through when I first gave up on the site and had expressed concern/comradery. I didn’t want them (or anyone else) trying to help me out here and inadvertently making things worse. — StartWithTheName · 69385
Anyway, you cant edit comments on here. But I can edit the original post. I have moved it to a link to make things shorter to scroll past. Apologies again for the unexpected length on the original. I suggest we just let this feed die and move on with life. — StartWithTheName · 69385

As the one who is currently playing Carson with Seeker sub-class... Don't make my mistakes, Survivor is a correct choice.

At a Crossroads is crazy good for him. Playing it on demand with Resourceful? Yes, please. Nature of the Beast should also work just fine. All of these along with other survivor staples like Take Heart create a good card draw engine which Carson really needs.

chrome · 57
I think both are good. Seeker has PMP, and Carson can include some practice skills such as signature, Leadership(2), Overpower(2), Deduction. — elkeinkrad · 486
Ah, you meant Nature of the Beast. Makes much more sense now. — Hylianpuffball · 28
Yes, Nature of the Beast. Corrected. My keyidea of the deck was PMP, you are right. I included deduction and vicious blow, to help my fighter and seeker, whoever needs it more. My signatures are also practiced and I also have Overpower and Perception. But afterall, I believe Survivor card pool provides you with more card draw options which you really need. And those Dilemmas are also very useful for Carson. — chrome · 57
Personally, even more so than Practice Makes Perfect, Shortcut is the real draw to Seeker for Carson. Moving your allies as needed (at Fast speed no less) is huge and he can even go with them with his Safeguard (which every Carson should have). Also, if card draw is what you need most, Seeker does have Deep Knowledge... Not to say Survivor Carson isn't also great, he is, I just really, really like Shortcut. — Erathis · 1
Can you use Resourceful to get At a Crossroads back though ? The rules on Revelation says that they happen when you draw the card. Resourceful doesn't make you draw the card, but add it in your hand. There's a special clause for weakness cards, but At a Crossroads isn't one. So IMO it would just make a dead card in your hand with no icons. — Azriel · 1
I actually think Seeker has more useful options here: Crack the Case, Deep Knowledge, Guidance, Shortcut, Thorough Inquiry, Deduction, Inquiring Mind, ... — AlderSign · 284

To those who have not looked at Carson closely yet, his ability has 1 free quota each turn, but you can use your actual action to do it too as long as it is not to the same investigator. Therefore if you play 4 players, you can use your free , then 2 actual for the remaining 2 players, then you still have 1 action for yourself.

Even if you have just 1 action left per turn, others using 4 actions per round is liberating. Even when I use my remaining action to just Move or play Obsidian Bracelet / Emergency Cache I still feel that Carson makes the team successful. He still has Skill cards to "help" in other's turn, as incentivized by Selfless to a Fault. (Though to actually get through this card, it has to be other's action inside your turn. Regardless, your deck will likely have some Skill cards.)

I have played limited Core + TSK Carson once choosing , while initially looked like suicide since he has nothing new other than Guidance (1) (which is good) and old Working a Hunch, just being a "2x Vicious Blow + 2x Deduction guy" hasten the team's tempo greatly when combined with his giving ability. (And it also save other's deck space to include more non-Skill cards.) You can basically order someone to deal 2~3 damages or pick 2 clues.

Therefore, in high player count there is no need to try hard and boost 2/2/2/2 to usable range (such as trying to build around Runic Axe / Sledgehammer / Lightning Gun) as you have many different players to give actions and they can cover fighting and clue gathering. It is possible to focus on a card that is immediately effective in one action and share benefit to others instead, like Obsidian Bracelet / Dynamite Blast. You can fill in support role with these cards that actual fighter has no time / resource / equipment slot / deck space to waste. TSK gave a lot of cards like this : Guard Dog (2) to fix engagement and deal auto damage, Girish Kadakia to tank and give boost, Motivational Speech for other's Ally, or Ever Vigilant (4) / Prepared for the Worst (2) for quick setup even while they are engaging. You skill cards and soaks should cover your own protection to / tests, or fix it without involving tests like Second Wind / "I've had worse…".

Perhaps more worrying to those who have not played him yet is that, is this any fun? It is!

  • You have to be tactical with your ending location the previous round if you want to to many different teammates without moving. You can also rally the team to come to your location to prepare for your command. A card like Fighting Lessons or Bestow Resolve that allows remote commit makes movement planning even more fun.
  • You will always be in the conversation when Mythos Phase is over regardless of cards in your hand. Either they will explicitly request your actions before/after they play because they have good solutions on hand but not enough actions, or you be the commander and volunteer to go first and order/push others around if you have some sort of solution on your hand. (Both ways, there is a sort of "trust me" energy that is addictive!)
  • If you get an enemy engagement, there is an incentive for others to go first and kill / take engagement because they could get an action back from you. Or you can go first and do it yourself (using boosts, some test-less cards, or 0 difficulty techs) or even take some AoO to still have others help you in one action.
  • Have fun eyeing all of your team's token draw at the same location, because you get to copy any pulls. (This one is easy to forget sometimes, maybe have other players remind you too so they can get more skill commits if you can draw a lot.)
5argon · 9930
Carson's Elder Sign is honestly one of his most fun aspects! Especially funny if the other investigator's Elder Sign is just a bland boost; they'll be looking at your draw with jealousy... — Nenananas · 251

What a dud of a gator. The only time I'd consider playing him is two-handing to reduce mind-melt. It's hard to feel excited about playing with a flat 2 stat line whose special ability is to hand off his actions to better investigators.

Compare him to the other support-leaning gators: Bob can get into all kinds of wacky combos while handing out resources and actions. Daisy has a selection of supporting tomes. Minh can crush the most brutal skill tests and ward off treacheries.

It baffles me that they gave Kymani 5 bonus xp when this doddering old man can hardly fend off a ghoul without help.

Someone, please convince me he's worth playing. Not that he's strong, I'm sure he has a good build somewhere. I want to know if you had fun!

I had fun! Honestly, giving away an action still feels like YOU'RE doing the action. Carson fights like your best fighter and investigates like your best cluever. On top of that, everyone loves you! Amazing — Nenananas · 251
Lightning gun gives +5 attack so if you build a deck around that he could kill efficiently — Django · 5072
One Carson action is as powerful as each other investigator at his location so he naturally scales up in power as the player counts increases. He may not do much in 2p (and is easily the worst solo investigator in the game) but at 3-4 players he really shines. He's only a dud if every other investigator at his location is a dud. — Pseudo Nymh · 54
One thing I didn't think would be so fun before I actually play him is that his ability often becomes similar to Shortcut. No one wants to spend an action to move and it is fun when everyone begs me to push them around... plus I can also kick someone into the enemy to get the engage. This translate to higher damage because they can spend 3 full actions to kill it. I can follow and give Guidance (1), draw and wait to commit cards, or work on other things. I'm the commander! — 5argon · 9930
I think Carson is suitable to the commander by re-order of turn/actions among players. That effect might seem weak, but sometimes be powerful, especially action efficiency sense. — elkeinkrad · 486
Take Safeguard and a ton of skills, and donate your actions to other players. Now you’re playing in a way that enables everyone around you to be stronger. Carson’s not designed for solo obviously, but even in 2p I bet he can do some work, and in 3 or 4 he seems like one of the best. He offers a larger team much more flexibility and consistency. — StyxTBeuford · 12987
In a recent TSK run I played as Carson with Zoey and Cluever Charlie. I was planning on eventually getting a Lightning Gun or Sledgehammer (4) to defend myself but ended up never needing to do so. It is simply better to give an action to Zoey (who appreciates it too), and I can commit Soothing Melody or other 3-icon cards with Bestow Resolve if I really need to pass a test. Overall I think Carson is indeed a bit underpowered in terms of stats (he deserves 7/7 health/sanity at least) but each of his actions can contribute as much as the best investigator at his location does, which makes him really fun to play and practically everyone will appreciate having him on the team. — koaexe · 29