One-Two Punch

One-Two Punch

Just some food for thought:

It's a Dynamite Blast that's costs 3 less. The downside is you have to draw 2 chaos tokens, and can't attack from a location away. Plus side is that you don't take/deal 3 damage to your friends.

To be safe I'd play it in someone with 5 base fight, which is few and far between. Mark and Tony come to mind.

I guess weigh the odds and go from there.

P.s.- Tony gets a free action to engage or fight. If you're already engaged and choose to fight as your extra action, you could do between 4 damage (punch), or 5-9/10 with a weapon- Average w/weapon is 7.5 s Think 7 damage is worth 2 resources? Yes, my friend.

Ok, ok. Sorry. One last cheese.

Tony. Beretta M1918. 5 base, +4 Beretta, +1 vicious blow = 10 Total Fist. Double, or Nothing... Let's say your average monster has 3/4 Fight. Double is 6/8. I'd feel decent about a 10 vs. 8.
Chaos bag generally has 15 tokens, 5 of which make this attack fail. So...66% chance of success. Let's just say 70 for giggle. 3 in 4 chance to succeed, almost.

Final damage is 8 as your free action fight. Plus your One-Two punch = 3 damage, for a Final total of 11 damage if the stars align.

11 damage for 2 resources and 1 action. Yes please. Oh, you have 2 actions left btw.

Ps, Ps. Double or nothing One-Two punch at base 5/7 = 6 damage. So it's kinda like a shotgun?

Bang! Bang!

Edit: We all agree that Double or Nothing works with One-Two Punch as being applied to both attacks, as they are both in a single action, yes?

Someone check my math, but yeah.

SemiSecretSquirrel · 127
Sure, this card is pretty good, but Dynamite Blast does damage to EVERY enemy at the location. — dscarpac · 1146
I can't parse some of these situations well enough to check the math, but it seems likely some of it is off. You mention seven damage for 2 resources but it's not clear where the +4 damage is coming from. In another spot you mention the Beretta, which can't be combined with the fight action on One Two Punch. One thing I am sure of is that Double Or Nothing (like all skill cards) only affects the test it's committed to and not subsequent tests (even if multiple tests are triggered by the same action). — Pseudo Nymh · 61
In response to your edit: absolutely not. Double or nothing applies only to the skill test it is committed to, so you need to pick one of them. — zrayak · 86
This reads like a fever dream, and it's clear that there are some misunderstandings on perhaps multiple levels. One of which might be that attacks deal damage equal to your skill test result? — Death by Chocolate · 1479
It's a little bit confusing: Tony starts his turn and attacks an enemy with a bounty. So this fight is his free action. He's using the Beretta and gets +4 skill and +2 Damage. Further he commit a vicious blow for a further skill and damage. If the attack succeed with a skill 10 (5+4+1) he deals 4 damage (1+2+1). Then he commits double or nothing for doubling the effect of the test for a total of 8 damage. With his next action he then play one of two punch for further 3 damage. In total 11 damage in two action for much more then 2 ressources since you need to pay the weapon. — Tharzax · 1
One thing to mention, though it wasn't debated, is the second fight on this card is an "if you succeed" which means it is part of the successful test. I think it you double or nothing the first test you then perform the second test twice. Meaning this +donut does 3 fights, each doing 2 damage — NarkasisBroon · 10

Nkosi Mabati

Nkosi Mabati

What if I name a token which is not in the bag (like the curse token but I never put any curse into the bag), do I search the bag and reveal nothing, then return all other chaos tokens to bag and resulting no chaos token at all?

wax0714 · 8
If you don't find the seal you can't resolve the reveal it instead term. (And probably since this effect don't change the game Staus you aren't even allowed to trigger the ability) — Tharzax · 1

Fingerprint Kit

Fingerprint Kit

Unfortunately for this card, Divination level 4 exists.

Let's compare Divination 4 to this card.

  • It costs 2 less
  • Only spend charges on success
  • Same +2 investigate
  • Same +6 clues for clue compression, with potentially in 2 actions instead of 3 Whoops math is incorrect here. The math is actually better for Fingerprint Kit over 3 turns (assuming successes).
  • Takes up arcane slot which is less contested for seeker
  • Does not exhaust
  • The only place where fingerprint kit level 4 is better is there is not a consequence for succeeding by zero

So yeah assuming you have EoTE I would always take Divination 4 over this, if your seeker is rolling in money you could take Fingerprint Kit 4 as well.

tactis · 18
Fingerprint Kit (4) gets you 9 clues if you succeed on all 3 tests. Divination only gets you 6 clues. Recharging Fingerprint Kit's uses is more efficient, since 1 use = 3 clues instead of 1 use = 1 clue. — dscarpac · 1146
Fingerprint Kit also benefits from item synergy (Backpack, Schofner's Catalogue, etc) and doesn't risk discarding cards from your hand. — Pseudo Nymh · 61
Also, Kymani can take it, but not Divination. — Susumu · 371
The kits supplies can be restored easier by e.Cache 4 than charges (I think that’s mystic only) — Django · 5108
But recharging charges is generally easier then supplies (e-cach, venture, contraband and the new mystic skill are the only options I know for supplies) — Tharzax · 1
Your comparison has a mistake at the point "Same +6 clues for clue compression". — Dippy · 1
If you spend all 6 charges from Divination (4) within two actions, you get 6 clues in total (which is +4 clues). This is the same you get from two successful actions on Fingerprint Kit (4). Considering this, you could make an argument that Fingerprint Kit (4) has the same value as Divination (4) if you succeed at 2 out of 3 tests, but greater value if you pass all 3. — Dippy · 1
And then, Cleaning Kit arrived... — Turloghdubh · 7

Map the Area

Map the Area

First impression of this card was not that good. Agree with other reviewer, slow and kind of costly for a fairly minimal benefit. Reduce difficulty by 1 is basically +1 skill (unless you combo with other difficulty reduction) and thats not much. I think in some investigators and decks it can shine just a bit more though.

In rough order of potential imo

Rex Murphy might like this too since he can trigger his passive with a high skill test and make it even easier to trigger his passive in subsequent turns (e.g. in a high clue count location).

Ursula Downs and Monterey Jack might like this. It can make high shroud locations easier to clear so they can continue moving on. Ursula only tests at 7 but can use her passive for action compression Monterey tests at 9.

Norman Withers does pretty well with this. It costs 0 for him on top of the deck and he can test at a staggering 9. The bonus is still pretty useful for him since he can still do basic investigate actions and has less access to high end seeker cards. Gloria Goldberg is similar but no free cost and weaker basic investigates.

Darrell Simmons tests 7 and likes difficulty reductions.

Trish Scarborough tests 8. She might like the bonus to make triggering her passive easier (either by investigating or evading). Noted by another commenter, works with Chuck Fergus.

Luke Robinson tests at 7 and can be used at range as its an event.

Vincent Lee and Carolyn Fern only tests at 7, possibly useful for a more combat or support oriented role.

Harvey Walters, Daisy Walker, Minh Thi Phan, Mandy Thompson tests at 8-9 but probably doesn't have any particular synergy with it?

Other seekers like Amanda Sharpe and off seekers like Roland Banks probably doesnt like this due to low stats.

fates · 54
It's significantly better than +1 skill. Remember, this applies to mythos tests, too. So a Rotting Remains becomes a skill test at 2, maxing at 2 horror while tested at a mapped location. If you're staying for even a single mythos phase, it's good insurance. If you reach the last location of a level and never plan to leave again, it's incredible insurance. Trish is also a notable user because she tests at 8 and, as a tactic, it can be used with Chuck Fergus. — SSW · 213
I mispoke. I meant its +1 skill but didnt bother to mention that it could potentially be reused many times (esp in multiplayer). You're totally right about Trish though, I actually forgot it works with Will or Agility. I even messed up Monterey Jack. Will make a quick edit. — fates · 54
I'm not sure if this card is good, but I do think it's worth consideration in scenarios where you spend a lot of time in one place, such as with a stationary elite enemy or a final location with a ton of clues to pick up. — DjMiniboss · 44
I agree with Fates here, this is not really a good card. Trying to pass it on as a way to pass mythos tests seems weird to me. Yes, it's a positive side effect but how are you gonna plan for that? "Everyone, come to this location where I just wasted an action and a card IN CASE you draw a treachery with a skill test where -1 difficulty is gonna save you somehow!" And as for final locations with multitudes of clues and monsters: Is having a slightly easier time with Hastur or Yog or Bishop or in a crater on the moon worth having this card in your deck for several scenarios first? Breach the Door is a mediocre card but it's at least worth considering because you can reduce the shroud all the way down to 0. Map the Area is NOT a good card because it's merely a -1, even if it's -1 to all tests at that location. If one has to make arguments such as "it's great for triggering Lucky Cigarette Case!" "It's decent if you combine it with a 4 Xp card to make it fast!" then you're probably grasping for straws. — olahren · 3470

Refine

Refine

hey just noticed you can put this under Stick to the Plan. Nice to be able to reduce to one of these in a deck if you're going Carson (or whomever) upgrade path on Customizable cards. 200 characters here I come.

Krysmopompas · 360
Another one of these "I read, what trait a card has, and now I must come up with 200 characters to write a review" reviews. "Refine" might be good under SttP, because you can play it only once per game, but would rather put 2 copies in your deck for consistency otherwise. On the other hand, XP excelleration is at it's best in the early stage of a campaign, and SttP costs 6 XP, so you likely will only profit from this combo for a few scenarios. Unless you are parallel Roland with "In the Thick of It", it will take you at least a scenario or two until you get SttP, and mid- to late campaign you will likely cut "Refine". — Susumu · 371
I would also cut it likely quite early, compared to a D2D, because 3 resources and 2 actions is quite expensive for 1 XP for 1 investigator. — Susumu · 371
Do you still spend xp for this effect? Can you get upgrades with this that the owner does not qualify for? — Django · 5108
Of course not. What makes you believe either, Django? It is a "free" (XP wise) check on your card during the game, but the card(s) imediately might rise in level, once you do that. And deck building rules have to be regarded at any time. So you can never tick an 11th box, making the cards level 6. (Or a 9th, if you are restricted to level 4 for that card. Or even a 1st, if you are Carolyn with "Runic Axe".) — Susumu · 371
I havent opened my copy of TSK yet so i don't know the exact upgrade rules. This card doesn't say that checking the box needs to be legal. Might be similar you ignore any costs when you "put an asset into play" instead of playing it. Though it would be very OP if anyone could add any upgarde card to their deck with versatile and then upgarde it with with refine. — Django · 5108
Even if you would read it that way: as soon, as you check a box, it is not a level 0 card anymore, it is level 1. So if you can't have the card at level 1, you are violating the deckbuilding options, and have to remove the card. — Susumu · 371
You’re welcome, @Susumu! Happy playing! — Krysmopompas · 360
Так а эта карта что два действия тратит? — Zanofar · 1
I don't think you'd remove the card mid play actually. There's no process or rule for that, and deckbuilding requirements aren't checked during the actual game. I'm pretty sure it's just as legal as if someone teamworked it to you, and you'd remove it after the scenario. Extremely Niche but might be useful. — Lailah · 1
I'm still looking for an official answer to Django's question. So far, from reading the rules, I can find nothing that says it is illegal to play Refine on a card that is otherwise at maximum level for the deck it's in. Regarding "expending xp," the rule says you must observe the restriction "while purchasing new cards." Nor can I find any rule requiring removal of a card that finds its way into a deck that is otherwise illegal. — qbeam2 · 1